Showing posts with label Teresa MacBain. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Teresa MacBain. Show all posts

Sunday, June 16, 2013

He Almost Became A Priest, Became Atheist Instead

Recent changes to /r/atheism[1] have resulted in a group of people upset to monitor the new posts[2] and downvote all posts that aren't complaining about the new changes.  A recent victim of the protests was a man who posted his story of almost becoming a priest and ending up atheist[3].  He gave me permission to share his story, but has since deleted his account for unknown reasons.
I thought I'd give a short introduction since I'm fairly new here.
My relationship with religion has been a very stormy one. I enjoy some of the cultural aspects (I'm probably unique in that regard on this forum.) But that's because I'm a professional musician and performed pretty much the entire English Cathedral repertoire at some point in my life. (Random fact: most choristers are atheist anyway.)
The storminess comes from the imprint that the fear of hell had on my heart from a very young age. My parents were very strict fundamentalists and had no difficulty telling me that people who did not hear about Jesus were going to burn for all eternity. When you're 8 years old, that's a rather traumatizing thought. It bothered me the first time my parents told me this, and it never stopped bothering me since. Even after liberalizing and dropping the doctrine of hell from my belief system at age 16, the fear persisted. What if I'm wrong? Then there were the question of the OT genocides, which bothered me from a young age as well.
My parents told me to read the Bible and it would strengthen my faith. Well, It's more likely that advice is what has led me here today. In college, because of my active participation in the church (Anglo-Catholic by choice), I made the decision to enter the priesthood. This was the first of three times I would made this decision, but I aborted every time, THANKFULLY! So I began reading the Homilies on the Book of Romans by St John Crysostom. If you ever want to deconvert someone, Crysostom is really the way to go. The man is a vile, misogynistic, homophobic, antisemite, and lots of other not nice thing. And yet he's one of the Three Holy Hierarchs, one of the three most important theologians in all history. I had to stop reading after about the 7th homily because it was so disgusting. (I don't want to make excessive comparisons, but in this case, I'm not sure excessive comparisons can be made.)
At this point I had been approved for sponsorship by my third parish. It's a very presitigious parish (eg. the rector has a knighthood) and I felt honored that they had selected me. But I had to put my studies down or else I was going to lose my faith. A year later I came out as gay. This was not a problem to my parish, but it was a problem to my more Evanglical fundamnetalist family. No matter how much liberal theology I had imbibed, I could not escape the fear of hell.
And then one day my mind went into a loop. "I'm going to go to hell. I deserve to go to hell. How could I not go to hell. What a terrible human being I am. I deserve every bad thing that has ever happened and more. Hell is clearly where I'm going. I'm going to go to hell." This loop lasted for almost four weeks. I could not get my brain to stop repeating these and similar words over and over again. (I was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder which may explain the loop.) I dropped into the deepest depression imaginable, and I'm already used to depression. It became nearly impossible for me to go to work and stay anywhere near concentrated. I had been gripped by fear, and the fear seemed totally reasonable. I had failed. I had fallen short. I could have done a hundred times better and I would still deserve horrible things. Worst of all I was gay. And while I had theologically reasoned myself out of believing that being gay was a sin, that's not what I was taught and what I was taught was taking over.
At the end of four weeks I said the wone thing that got me out of the loop. I said it so meekly, and I was so scared. But I already knew that I believed it. My entirely theological understand of god and of the world had been eroded down. And so I said it, "I am an atheist."
"I am an atheist."
"I am an atheist."
I was still terrified. But the loop in my mind stopped. And I realized I hadn't believed in god in years. Everything I had been doing was trying to create an image of myself that my parents could be proud of. Also, there were those cultural aspects of Anglo-Catholicism that I could have fun doing, even if it was pointless motions and dressing up. I mean, I have a campy side. But all of that fell apart quickly when I finally accepted reality for the first time.
I had never read any Dawkins, or Harris, or Hitchens. I'm not even sure I knew there names at the time. But the entire super-structure of my theological beliefs came tumbling down. There was nothing I could do to hold them up. I didn't want to anymore. I am an atheist. :)
PS Even my screenname here is a referece to that past as Sarum Blue was my favorite liturgical color. The papists will say it's not liturgical color but I really dgaf.
If you're familiar with the stories of Teresa MacBain & Jerry DeWitt[4], or any other graduates of The Clergy Project[5], parts of his story probably sound familiar too.  It also reminded me a little of Matt Dillahunty's story .

I hope this guy wasn't scared off Reddit by the protest downvotes.  His story is quite common, our society is rough on people in his situation.  I hope he ended up using the link I gave him for Recovering From Religion[7], as I think it would a great resource for him.

Studying religion has a way of turning people atheist, but disbelief is the expected outcome of people honestly investigating invalid claims.

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1.  http://mashable.com/2013/06/14/reddit-atheism-mods/
2.  http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/new/
3.  http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1gb4w6/almost_became_a_priest_now_definitely_an_atheist/
4.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2012/12/twelve-apostates-former-clergy.html
5.  http://www.clergyproject.org/
6.  http://youtu.be/uzlZVHPJ5n4
7.  http://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/

Saturday, April 6, 2013

Saturday Morning Shares - 04-06-2013

Here's the links & tweets to share from the last week.  Most were also shared on this Facebook page or retweeted.  Please feel free to add any fun or informative stories I missed in the comments.


Random Stuff:

New 'GTA V' Screens Show Extreme Action and a Beautiful Game World (via @mashable)

24 Things You Didn't Know About Beer (via @Alyssa_Milano)


Science!:

Major study finds no link between vaccines and autism






Gay Stuff:

Marriage Equality: 18 Creative Red Facebook Pics (via @mashable)

God Condemns Same-Sex Marriage? Really? (via @HuffPostRelig)


Religion Stuff:

Teresa MacBain, a Pastor-Turned-Atheist, Celebrates Her One Year ‘Coming Out’ Anniversary (via @hemantmehta)

(via @mikecannytalk)
I’m now a target for believers (via @PatheosAtheist)

The Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense (via @hemantmehta)

(via God of the week)

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(via New York City Atheists)



Painting of Jesus comes down in Jackson school (via United Atheists of America)

"Islamaphobia":

Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens: New Atheists flirt with Islamophobia (via @mxoom)

Criticism of Islam Is Not ‘Islamophobia’ (via @hemantmehta)

The Open Letter & Some Responses:

An Open Letter to the Secular Community

Why the American Secular Census didn't sign 'An Open Letter to the Secular Community'

A Response to "An Open Letter to the Secular Community"

#AACon13 (American Atheists Convention 2013:

Salas: Bringing people of all faiths — and no faith — together (via @exploregod)

American Atheists Convention 2013 recap: Friday (via @RussellGlasser)

American Atheists Convention 2013 recap: Saturday (via @RussellGlasser)

American Atheists Convention 2013 recap: Sunday morning (via @RussellGlasser)

American Atheists Convention 2013 recap: Sunday evening (via @RussellGlasser)

Reflections on #AAcon13 (via @DaylightAtheism)






Preacher or Parodist? Jerry DeWitt’s Inspired Self-Deconstruction and Self-Affirmation (via @jerry_dewitt)

Back from American Atheist convention and other things. (via @SkeptimusPrime)

American Atheists Conference (via @hemantmehta)


Roger Ebert:

I do not fear death

The ‘Roger Ebert is in Heaven’ Cartoons Are Coming… (via @hemantmehta)


Secular Coalition of America's Weekly Update:

National Secular Movement Update Call (04/04/2013)

Asshole Of The Week:

Wednesday, April 3, 2013

Helping A Child Eat

Teresa MacBain's a pretty awesome person[1].  So seeing her make a request for help is something I couldn't let go unanswered.
My friends, I must ask a favor. You know that I've never asked for any personal favors, but this is a desperate situation. My nephew has lost his job which has put his family in a very bad spot. While that is a tough thing, (which many of you have or may be facing) the big issue is his 2 year old son. Noah was born with PKU (pku.com) which is a serious condition. Noah can't eat any protein at all, ever. Because of the PKU, he has to eat special food that is very expensive. (Formula is $695 per month!) Obviously, they don't have the funds to buy his food. Get this... they went to their catholic church and they told them that they couldn't help. The disease is so rare (only 14k cases) that there aren't any resources for Noah. 
My sister (the one who is very religious and tells me that she is so upset that she won't see me in heaven) called to tell me about Noah. She personally asked me if my "atheist friends" would help. Did you get that? The church won't help so my sister is asking for my atheist friends to help. 
I'm not asking you to send me or them money. All that we have to do is go online to the PKU store and purchase a gift certificate for my nephew. If you're willing to do this, send me a PM and I'll give you the information you need to get it to Noah.
Where the church refused to help, I believe atheists will step up.  To help, please visit the donation page Teresa created[2]

But don't do it to show up the Catholics.  Don't do it because I'm asking nicely.  Don't do it because Teresa's the very deserving Atheist of the Year[3].

Do it because the kid needs to eat.  Do it because it's the right thing to do.

And for what it's worth, my belief that atheists would step up is not without evidence.  The page was newly created, and thus at $0, half an hour ago when I started typing this (and trying to get my crappy computer to cooperate with the donation page).  Now it's already at $385.  I bet our community could get this goal achieved overnight.

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1.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2012/12/twelve-apostates-former-clergy.html
2.  http://www.youcaring.com/medical-fundraiser/help-noah-get-his-pku-formula/51198
3.  https://twitter.com/AmericanAtheist/status/318181106316873728

Saturday, March 16, 2013

Saturday Morning Shares - 03-16-2013


Here's the links & tweets to share from the last week.  Please add any fun or informative stories I missed in the comments.


Not At All About Religion:


Meet the woman with the world’s strongest VAGINA (via Todd N Tyler Radio Empire)

designed-for-life: Invisible Farm (via @ZacharyNelson)

Seals Yelling Like Goats Yelling Like Humans (via @mashable)

R2-D2 Papercraft  (via @MattersofGrey)

(via @thinkgeek)
Don't Be Offended. Seriously, Don't. (via @SethMacFarlane)


Secular Coalition of America's Weekly Update:

National Secular Movement Update Call (03/14/2013)


About Religion:

Young, Sick and Invisible: A Skeptic's Journey With Chronic Illness (via @jteberhard)

Humanist Essay Contest (via @Teresamacbain)

(Thanks to Kevin, fellow fan of Atheist Experience & Non-Prophets)




(via @hemantmehta)

My father, the hate preacher: Nate Phelps on escaping Westboro Baptist Church (via @OuRR_World)

Petition Interdiction: Tenn. Legislator Seeks To Make It A Crime To Protest Church-State Violations

CIA Director takes his oath of office the right way. (via @jteberhard)

Last Year, Atheists Raised $430,000 for Cancer Research; Let’s Do Even Better This Year (via @hemantmehta)

Next Week Is ‘A’ Week (via Omaha Atheists)


Pope Stuff:

Who Is Pope Francis? (via @hemantmehta)

New Pope, Same Old Homophobia (via @hemantmehta)

Cardinal Archbishop of Buenos Aires Rages Against Abortion “Death Sentence” (via @hemantmehta)

All Of These Pope Twitter And Facebook Accounts Are Fake  (via @Alyssa_Milano)

What a New Pope Means for Atheists (via @hemantmehta)

Pope Francis in 92 Seconds (via @mashable)

(via Satan, thanks to Sarah for sharing)

Asshole Of The Week:


Saturday, March 2, 2013

Saturday Morning Shares - 03-02-2013

Here's the links & tweets to share from the last week:


Not At All About Religion:



10 Myths About Introverts


Partly About Religion:


Are You a Woman In Your Twenties? Do You Know Your Rights Are Being Eroded? (The Pragmatic Progressive )



Secular Coalition of America's Weekly Update:


National Secular Movement Update Call | Secular Coalition for America


About Religion:


DontHateTheGeek.com


Atheist Group Created at Christian School Wants Official Recognition



Asshole(s) Of The Week:


General Funniness:

Thursday, February 21, 2013

Many Many Links, Without Comment (Except For The Comment)

I don't know how some of the bigger bloggers manage to publish so often.  I'm terrible about bookmarking more things to share than I can find the time to write about.  I've decided to start sharing them as a group on Saturday mornings.  Sometimes they'll be timely news stories (give or take a week).  Other times they'll be random, older bits I've come across & just want to share.

But first I'm gonna drop a bunch of things I had bookmarked to share that still seem worth sharing.  And, even with sharing this much crap on Thursday evening, I've got some stuff already on the post for Saturday.  This should be an interesting experiment.


Teen Denied Communion After Marriage Equality Facebook Post


Kids Without God

Christian Group Says Demon Sex Makes You Gay



Atheist Census




And Some Stuff About Billboard Vandalism:


Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Positive Approach In 2013

Teresa MacBain has shared a simple way to keep positive in the midst all the negative of the world.


I'm cynical enough to think it's cheesy.  But I'm aware enough of my cynicism to know that it could be a good thing for me.  I think I'll give a try and see what happens.

Credit:  @Teresamacbain

Thursday, December 13, 2012

Twelve Apostates - Former Clergy

This had to be my first post in this series because, at Skepticon 5, I let it slip to Jerry that I was writing about him and he wanted me to publish it.  Although, I'll forgive him for not remembering that two minute conversation out of a weekend packed full of fun.

I'm generally not a fan of excessively positive people.  Jerry DeWitt (former minister, the first graduate of The Clergy Project, and Executive Director of my favorite national atheist organization, Recovering From Religion) is one of the exceptions.  He's had a rough time over the last couple years, because he dared be honest about his loss of faith.


He lost jobs.  He lost friends.  He lost family.  He became a pariah in his home town.  But he's handled it with grace & dignity.  At least as far as I've been able to see.  The man is quickly becoming a star of the atheist community, but you're not likely to catch him ever admitting it.  I'm excited to see where his upcoming book takes him.



At the 2012 American Atheists Convention, while helping out at the Recovering From Religion table, I briefly met a woman who was introduced to me as Lynn.  I had no idea was about to happen or that, when she left the room, she was headed to go on stage.


The cheers in that video were so loud, they could be heard in the next room.

Neither intended to become atheists.  It's just something that happened because they were intellectually honest and applied critical thinking to their religious beliefs.  They could have stayed ministers and never dealt with the turmoil they went through in their coming out, a process much more difficult for clergy than the average atheist.

Except that they couldn't have, because they have integrity.  It takes bravery, for someone whose livelihood comes from being a believer, to come out as atheist.  It takes integrity to stay out instead of having a "come to Jesus moment", pretending to believe again, getting your old friends and family back, and making a bunch of money by selling the story.

Things are working out overall for both of them now, with Jerry's book and Teresa working for American Atheists, but they had no idea what was going to happen when they came out.  Although, they both appear to me (from the handful of times I've met them) to be the kind of positive people who don't dwell on the negative.

These two are far from the only clergy coming out.  They're just two of the most well known.  Hundreds more have joined The Clergy Project and will graduate without much recognition.  But they're not doing it for fame.  They're doing it because they do not want to live a lie.  And for that, they have my respect.