Showing posts with label Atheist Monument. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Atheist Monument. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Please Do Not Harass The Guy Who Vandalized The Atheist Monument (And Some Other Responses)

The Atheist Monument in Florida was recently vandalized[1], but that story has a happy ending.  The young man who did it has already apologized.  He posted what appears to be a sincere apology[2] to American Atheists' Facebook, the same place he had outed himself as the vandal.


With the picture, American Atheists posted:
The vandal, Zach, has sent us an apology, which we have accepted.
We appreciate everyone's support and completely understand and agree with your feelings about this—what he did was hurtful to our community and just reinforces the untrue idea that atheists are second-class citizens, worthy of contempt and ridicule, just because we do not believe in gods.
The vandal is just a teenager and he made a mistake. We ask people NOT to call or text him (his phone number has been leaked); two wrongs don't make a right and this is not appropriate, either. Thank you for understanding.
We have asked him to clean up the monument and send us another picture of him with it to show us that he holds no ill-will against us. We'll let you know when we hear back.
Thank you again for your support. - American Atheists
He's a minor who chews tobacco, but that's a different issue for a different day.  I'm choosing to take the apology as sincere and moving on.  Although, I really don't even care if it's sincere or not.  If it turns out that it's not at all sincere, the point that we don't deserve such mistreatment has been made.  That's why I want to highlight American Atheists' request.

If you've received his phone number since it was leaked, please do not use.  Please do not harass this young man.  The point's been made.  It's time to move on.

But while Zach did the right thing, there's one person who didn't get it[3].

"Fuck yo shit! U come in our town on our terf! The commandments weren't hurtin a damn soul! Yall started this shit! Now its our move! Maybe he shouldn't have spit on it but shit it does rain ya know! Stupid dumbass! U wont a police report? What happened to seperation of religious and state matters? Haha ur a joke! U want a war u got one! Hes a kid who's angry and feels stepped on! Thats why he did that shit! How much have Christians been persecuted?!?! And u wanna bitch cuz some kid spit on your rock? Ur fucking pathetic all of you!"
Fortunately, this grammar & logic deprived individual and moderately racist[4] doesn't appear to be representative of the reaction from Christians.

Also posted on the American Atheists Facebook[5] was:
This is an apology from those that stand on the non-ignorant side of the people that actually understand and follow the laws of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion. 
Some kids in our town (Keystone) were brought up on extremist Christian ways and in some churches it is so bad that they can be considered a cult. The fact that the American Atheists Inc built a monument not 30 feet from the 10 Commandments at the courthouse in Bradford County really irritated a bunch of people in our area. But there are a handful of liberal minded and forgiving, not to mention understanding, people here that do not wish to thrash the name of other religions. Some Atheists, some Christians. Keystone may seem like the Christian melting pot due to its high populated area of churches, but there are a few that I am even friends with that follow other religions such as Atheism, Hinduism, and Wicca. I find it funny how those who follow the religions that are not Christianity are less aggressive to others. While Christians on the other hand are more than willing to smite those who act against people who don't follow God. 
I am ashamed to be surrounded by such pig-headed and closed minded people. I apologize for them.
It's kind of ranty and makes the mistake of calling atheism a religion, but the point is that a Christian is rightly condemning the behavior of other Christians.  Another was this picture sent via Twitter[6].


All 4 of these are a good thing.  Even the negative one.  This collection of responses shows that open minded Christians will respect our rights and racist morons like Ace will be the kind of haters that are the example of what we're fighting against, with the apparent help of some Christians.

I've seen people complain about this monument, saying that it's a waste of money.  Or that it's focusing on the wrong thing.  I think this shows that those criticism are nonsense.  The publicity and good will garnered from just this incident has been worth the cost of this granite bench.

I'm looking forward the atheist monuments that follow.

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1.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2013/07/christian-shows-what-he-thinks-of.html
2.  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151715134537418&set=a.495249962417.276326.71352317417&type=1
3.  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=601168653260565&set=o.71352317417&type=1
4.  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=589951394382291&set=o.71352317417&type=1
5.  https://www.facebook.com/AmericanAtheists/posts/10151715412632418
6.  https://twitter.com/HaruhiKatrina/status/359111694175305729

Saturday, July 20, 2013

Christian Shows What He Thinks Of The Atheist Monument, Doesn't Use His Brain

Many Christians weren't happy about the Atheist Monument[1] that recently went up in Florida.  One in particular recently did what we all knew was inevitable.  Vandalism.

Photo Source:  American Atheists[2]
Fortunately, it's minor damage that hopefully can simply be washed off.  Although, the point is how brazen people think they can be in committing such acts.  They think they can damage our shit with no consequences, because of the out of control Christian privilege.  They're so bold with it, this guy photographed it and posted it on American Atheists' Facebook page[3] to brag about it.

Note their response to it.  They've alerted the police and will let them decide what to do about it.  That's what it takes to show people like Mr Osborne that they we're not going to take their abuse.  A previous proactive response to something is what prompted my decision to join American Atheists.  This makes me glad I did.  Both were done by Dave Muscato, American Atheists' Public Relations Director[4].  He was a good hire, and now I think I can say that without it because of the personal bias I have from having known and respected him before he got that job.

Imagine how Christians would react if an atheist did this to any Ten Commandments monument.  They wouldn't simply alert police.  They'd lose their fucking minds over it.  They'd be out for blood.

We already know how Dave Silverman would react to it.  He'd denounce it[5].  I wonder how many Christians will do the same.  I wonder how many will praise it.  There's sure to be Christians of both kinds, but I wonder which group will be larger.  I have my suspicions, but time will tell.

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1.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2013/06/such-christian-responses-to-atheist.html
2.  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151713368867418&set=a.495249962417.276326.71352317417&type=1
3.  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=546274018741029&set=o.71352317417&type=1
4.  http://atheists.org/about-us/staff
5.  https://twitter.com/MrAtheistPants/status/337266068357799936

Sunday, June 30, 2013

Such Christian Responses To The Atheist Monument

The first ever atheist monument to be on government property went up this weekend in Florida[1].

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Hemant covered the events quite well[3].  And of course, there were protesters[4].  I've been at plenty of atheist events that had protesters, but never one with such blatantly racist protesters.


I think I'll just leave the response to Amanda Knief's tweets[5] on the matter since she said what I was thinking.




Only racists who don't know who won the Civil War could be the most ridiculous thing at a place Eric Hovind[6] was.

[7]

I love this picture for a number of reasons.  It illustrates how disrespectful Eric Hovind is.  It would be rude stand up there if it was a random bench and it wasn't David Silverman sitting there.  No matter who was sitting there, it would be incredibly rude to stand right next to their head.

It being a monument that was making history and the person sitting there being the head of the organization who made it happen makes it that much more rude.  The fact that it's an extremely rare thing for any religious view that isn't Christianity to get any positive attention makes it even worse for him to be so brazenly arrogant.

And still, he has the right to do it.


If only Christians were better able to show such respect[8].


It's incredibly disturbing how often I see Christians portray the Bible commandment against murder as the only thing keeping people from killing.


I guess that's better.  He's only threatening to beat us up instead of kill us.  But one more had something to say about killing.


Instead of threatening us, he's pretending we did the threatening.  But, ...


Exactly.  So, I'll leave it at that and move on the more fun comments.


Chris is right.  Plus, regarding tolerance see the tweet of Matt Dillahunty's that I shared above[9].


I wish I could expect that response to make the guy understand that being atheist doesn't make you a nihilist.

I also wish I could write off the hate as trolls.  But it's all consistent with what I see happen every time.  It happens online and in person.  Christian privilege in America leaves no room for anything else.  So they freak the fuck out[10] anytime anyone else exercises their rights.

This last one is one I really hope is a Poe, but sadly, that kind of crazy shit is sometimes real too.


Just a hunch, but I suspect this guy might be a tad racist.  Either way, I'm sticking with the idea that the crazier they get, the more it means we're winning[11].

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1.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/atheists-unveil-monument-next-to-ten-commandments-at-florida-courthouse/2013/06/29/f226a614-e10c-11e2-86b4-4efb8c53d62b_story.html
2.  https://twitter.com/AmericanAtheist/status/351024379854983168
3.  https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/351021011761762305
4.  https://twitter.com/jteberhard/status/351071613707485186
5.  https://twitter.com/mzdameanor
6.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2012/11/eric-hovind-i-have-question-for-you.html
7.  I lost track of who gets credit for the picture.
8.  https://twitter.com/Matt_Dillahunty/status/351327995878846465
9.  https://twitter.com/Matt_Dillahunty/status/351184669334716416
10.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2012/07/uncontroversial-billboard-is.html
11.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2013/06/bryan-fischer-being-unhappy-makes-me.html

Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Petition To Restore The National Motto (Or Moto)

"In God We Trust" on our money is a minor thing to many.  Even many atheists don't care much about it.  I'm not among those people[1].  It's something I care quite a bit about, because I don't think it's an inconsequential matter.  It's too often used by Christians as their evidence of the completely false claim that we're a Christian nation.

Getting it fixed is not an easy task, but persistence on such matters is what gets things done.  It's why I carry the Sharpie (and have successfully gotten other to do the same).  And it's why I've signed this petition on whitehouse.gov[2].
Please restore the original moto "E Pluribus Unum" as well as placing in on currency again.
The current moto added to currency in 1864 and as the moto in 1965 only serves as to be a decisive point between different religions or the lack there of. The original moto meaning One From Many is much more fitting and celibates the cultural diversity that make the United States so unique.
Additionally this is a clear violation of the First Amendment which: "prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion"
Sure, it's got some spelling errors, and it's the wrong place to make such a request since it would require an act of Congress.  And, even if it were something within the President's power, it's not something we could realistically expect from Barack Obama[3].

But that's not the point.  The point is to keep pushing to restore our country to the secular nation it was founded as instead of the place where Christians are so comfortable pushing their religion into government they pass laws to allow people to say "Merry Christmas"[4] even though it wasn't at all illegal.  I'd rather be a secular nation than a nation that elects people into office who oppose abortion because they think fetuses masturbate[5].  Little things like this can actually make a difference if done often enough, by enough of us.

If enough people signed these things, even the terribly written ones like this one[6], they could have as much impact as atheist monuments[7].  After all, these petitions do sometimes make news[8].  Even for non-serious requests[9].

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1.  http://aparticularblogbyaparticularatheist.blogspot.com/2013/03/why-i-carry-sharpie.html
2.  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-national-moto-e-pluribus-unum/58JXzNBB
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4.  http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/06/14/18959929-freedom-from-religion
5.  http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/michael-burgess-fetus-masturbation/66345/
6.  We already know you don't need good grammar to get what you want from Washington.
7.  http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/north-fla-county-atheist-monument-19343424#.UcEqFPnVC8A
8.  http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18886451-pardon-edward-snowden-petition-seeks-white-house-response
9.  http://theweek.com/article/index/238746/the-white-houses-nerd-delighting-death-star-petition-response